Dr. Hibbert - like many I've encountered in my non-blogging life - sounds skeptical about the idea of Mike Mussina as a Hall of Famer:
I enjoy the analysis, Mike. I think era+ is an excellent way of comparing players across the years. But I dislike the "If X then Y" type of arguments for the HOF. I prefer to hold them to the standard: "Were they a DOMINANT player of their era?"To answer Dr. Hibbert's question, I went back through Baseball Prospectus' VORP pitcher ratings and ranked pitchers (going back to 1954) on the number of seasons they finished in the Top 10 in VORP. Here's what I came up with:
Moose was a very good pitcher for 18 seasons. I guess I'd need to be convinced that he was dominant amongst his peers. As someone said (Bill James?), "It's not the Hall of Very Good"
MLB Top 10 VORP Seasons: 1954-2008
Pitcher | # of Years | Years | HOF? |
Roger Clemens | 13 | 1986-1992, 1994, 1996 1997, 1999 2004, 2005 | |
Greg Maddux | 9 | 1992-1998 2000, 2001 | |
Jim Palmer | 9 | 1970-1973 1975-1978 1982 | YES |
Randy Johnson | 9 | 1993-1995 1997 1999-2002 2004 | |
Tom Seaver | 9 | 1967-1971 1973, 1975 1976, 1981 | YES |
Bert Blyleven | 8 | 1971 1973-1975 1977, 1981, 1984, 1989 | NO |
Bob Gibson | 8 | 1962 1964-1966 1968-1970 1972 | YES |
Mike Mussina | 8 | 1992, 1994 1995, 1997 1999-2001 2003 | |
Jim Bunning | 7 | 1957, 1960 1961 1964-1967 | YES |
Pedro Martinez | 7 | 1997-2000 2002-2005 | |
Whitey Ford | 7 | 1955, 1956 1958 1961-1964 | YES |
These are what I would call the "consistently dominant" pitchers. Within this category, there are two classes of pitchers.
- Pitchers who were not only dominant for a long time, but incredibly dominant at their peak. These pitchers put up VORPs of 80 or higher for three or more seasons. Maddux, Johnson, and Martinez fall into this class of pitchers, while Palmer is straddling the fence.
- Pitchers who didn't put up a stretch where they were the absolute best during their time but were still among the elites for a long time. Blyleven, Mussina, and Bunning are examples of this type of pitcher.
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