Wednesday, May 13, 2009

FAAB and Keeper Prices

Over at Patton & Company, Mike Fenger wants to know the impact of FAAB players depending upon keeper price:
What is your read on the number of leagues that allow you to keep FAABed players at their acquisition price (at least for the next season or two), as opposed to requiring some boost in their price if they're to be a next-year keeper?
One problem I have is that I don't have a good data on the number of leagues using one format versus another. The best I can do is compare the A.L. and N.L. in which I track my FAAB logs every week.

In the American League I track, the minimum price for player FAABed under $10 is $10. So if I FAABed Juan Cruz for $1 in April, I can only keep him in 2010 if I want him at $10.

In the National League I track, the minimum keeper price is $5.

How many FAABed players were frozen in this N.L. and this A.L. in 2009?

National League (19)
$8
Josh Johnson
$7 Jason Motte
$6 Travis Ishikawa, Hong-Chih Kuo, John Lannan, Nyjer Morgan, Daniel Murphy
$5 John Baker, Clint Barmes, Emmanuel Burriss, David Bush, Matt Lindstrom, Ryan Madson, Paul Maholm, Ricky Nolasco, Pablo Sandoval, Skip Schumaker, Ian Snell, Todd Wellemeyer.

American League (13)
$15
Armando Galarraga
$11 Juan Rivera
$10 Mike Aviles, Grant Balfour, Shin-Soo Choo, Joey Devine, Gavin Floyd, Frank Francisco, Matt Joyce, Kendry Morales, Brandon Morrow, Denard Span, Brad Ziegler.

As you would expect, there were more players frozen in the league with the cheaper FAAB plays. But not that much more than you would have expected. Or there were more players frozen in this A.L. at $10 or higher than you might have expected. Galarraga at $15 seems shocking. Balfour at $10 is a lot for a middle reliever. Joyce is baffling, given that it seemed certain he'd go to the minors.

But how many of these guys in the N.L. would have thrown back if their owners had to say $10?

It's hard to say, but I'd think that both Kuo and Madson would have been tossed back. Snell and Lannan seem iffy at $5 and $6; at $10 I'd imagine that their owners' feet would have turned into blocks of ice. Baker's a cute play at $5; at $10, that seems like a lot of risk wrapped up in a career minor leaguer, even at catcher.

As far as strategy goes, there's probably more of an impact on teams playing for next year than teams wrapped up in a run at this season. Last year, I looked at players who were dumped in this A.L. and found that Marlon Byrd was the only FAABed player moved in a dump deal who could have been considered even a borderline target (and not simply a throw-in to satisfy a positional or salary cap requirement). The A.L. list above is similar. Only Aviles was moved in a dump trade, but this happened one week after he was FAABed, and at that point he was clearly a throw-in and not a key component of the deal.

If you're in a league with cheaper FAAB keeps, it should lead to more activity from the bottom feeders trying to collect cheaper freezes (assuming that transactions aren't fee-based). That's a good thing to a point...but I'm not necessarily sure I want someone who had a terrible auction and/or made terrible in-season moves to be rewarded by getting a bunch of $5 freezes.

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

We've gone a step beyond, apparently motiveated by serious paranoid anti-dumping, we can't freeze FAAB acquisitions nor may we trade them. Apparently solves the dreaded dumping, but sure seems to kill any serious in-season trading unless you have asterisk playeers to burn and still compete.

Anonymous said...

Here's a specific question that I think might be able to be addressed generally:

I'm in a 12-team, 6X6, NL-only and Chris Coste is my No. 2 catcher. Robinson Diaz is available as a free-agent. I would like to pick up Diaz, since he's getting regular at-bats in Pittsburgh, but I know he's not going to get many at-bats (if any) when Ryan Doumit returns.

So, my question is, how do fantasy owners address situations like this--when you know you have a possible starter who might only give you two months of stats; versus a slumping backup who will likely get playing time here and there for an entire season?

If you can, please answer this because I need help making up my mind.

Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Our rule is *any* player kept has a $5 salary increase next season. Thus FAABs at 1 become 6 next year. Sure some bargains are found, but it is more likely that FAABs are "price enforced" by teams still in the running.