tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37316956.post5484263815321542741..comments2023-10-31T06:25:28.512-04:00Comments on Roto Think Tank: Trading Peeve #2Mike Gianellahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04227146501538593197noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37316956.post-72603030852650752412008-08-15T13:58:00.000-04:002008-08-15T13:58:00.000-04:00I run into a similar problem in my league, though ...I run into a similar problem in my league, though slightly inverted. We have several owners who are reluctant to part with their at-par or even above par salaried stars as they are part of their "rebuilding effort". "I want to build around Sizemore next year". GUHHHH...<BR/><BR/>So even though you offer a Guillen type, the also-ran is reluctant to let go of the much higher priced talent even though they are going nowhere. So if you miss the boat on the few owners who are dumping, you're screwed.Dr. Hibberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17196111364716808134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37316956.post-75370747307213930472008-08-15T10:23:00.000-04:002008-08-15T10:23:00.000-04:00I am grateful every day that there is someone out ...I am grateful every day that there is someone out there who plays traditional Roto - 4x4 AL-Only keeper leagues.<BR/><BR/>Gullien is $19 in my league and I had the strangest time trying to convince others he we protectable at that price off his previous year's production. No one bit, but at draft time his ilk went for $20-$24 dollars. His ilk? Jhonny peralta, Casey Kotchman, JD Drew, Garrett Anderson, etc.<BR/><BR/>If I could get him at $9, I'd alrwady have him. The competing teams in my league this year did it with every post-draft/peripheral-defying player in the AL. A $9 Guillen would have ranked as one of the best bail targets.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06695254687836794875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37316956.post-25476692221458708612008-08-15T09:29:00.000-04:002008-08-15T09:29:00.000-04:00Oh, and maybe my biggest pet peeve:Owners that are...Oh, and maybe my biggest pet peeve:<BR/><BR/>Owners that are dumping but won't trade anyone who has the slightest chance of being a keeper.<BR/><BR/>Examples: Torii Hunter at $28. His owner won't trade him because "he might want to keep him next year." They just can't comprehend that even though he may be a bargain by a buck or two, they'll get more by trading him to someone going for it this year.<BR/><BR/>Another guy has BJ Ryan at $15. A good keeper, to be sure - but I said I would offer him a package of keepers/minor leaguers who are much better than Ryan for next year, but he still wouldn't even talk about it. In his mind, Ryan is a keeper, and you don't trade keepers if you're dumping. The inflexibility is maddening.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37316956.post-16425666572439486912008-08-15T09:22:00.000-04:002008-08-15T09:22:00.000-04:00Well, if you're on comfortable-enough terms with t...Well, if you're on comfortable-enough terms with that owner, I'd just ask him what stats he thought Guillen would produce next year. If he says .265/11/53/2, then tell him "ok, I disagree but you're right, he's not a keeper to you". If he gives numbers similar to this year, then you have the discussion about why his valuation is out of whack, and hopefully convince him.<BR/><BR/>Of course, some owners are stubborn (or worse) and won't even have that kind of conversation with you. It's just "no, I don't like him" and that's that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com